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CITY OF LAWRENCE, KANSAS

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LAWRENCE FAIR HOUSING ORDINANCE

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50th ANNIVERSARY ORAL HISTORY PROJECT

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Interview of Dorothy Harvey

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November 11, 2016

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(10:42:53)

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MR. ARNOLD:

Today is November 11th, 2016.

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am local historian Tom Arnold interviewing

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Mrs. Dorothy Harvey via telephone in Lawrence,

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Kansas, for the City of Lawrence Fair Housing

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Ordinance 50th Anniversary Oral History Project.

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At the time the ordinance passed in July,

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1967, Mrs. Harvey was serving as the president of

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the Church Women United of Lawrence, and,

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Mrs. Harvey, I just want to tell you that I am

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recording our conversation and confirm I have your

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permission to do that.

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MRS. HARVEY:

You do.

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MR. ARNOLD:

Thank you.

To start off, tell

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me a little bit about your background.

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grow up in Lawrence and were you a lifelong

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resident?

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MRS. HARVEY:
Kansas.

MR. ARNOLD:

Okay.

What year was that, do

you recall?
MRS. HARVEY:

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MR. ARNOLD:

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I grew up in Kansas City,

I came to Lawrence to go to K.U.

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No.

Did you

1943.
All right.

And then did you

stay in Lawrence after that?
MRS. HARVEY:

I married and I moved to

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Lawrence in 1945.
MR. ARNOLD:

All right.

And then you have

lived here continuously since then?

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MRS. HARVEY:

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MR. ARNOLD:

Right.
To start off how about

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describing for me what Lawrence was like for an

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African-American in the 1950s and 1960s.

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MRS. HARVEY:

For me Lawrence was something I

had to adjust to, a city I had to adjust to,

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because I had grown up in Kansas City, Kansas,

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where we had swimming pools and recreational

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centers where we could go.

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Lawrence there was nothing like that here and in

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the '50s and '60s it had not progressed to any

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degree.

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When I came to

I joined the AME Church, St. Luke AME Church,

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when I moved here because I had grown up in the

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AME Church in Kansas City, Kansas.

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didn't offer African-Americans very much at that

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point.

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the housing when I came to K.U., we lived at the

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base of the hill in private housing.

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K.U. didn't offer much.

Lawrence

We didn't live in

I don't know what else I can tell you except

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that people wanted to move into other areas of

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Lawrence now.

When I married I moved into the

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rural area of Lawrence and I've lived out here

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ever since, but people could not buy anywhere in

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Lawrence.

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Lawrence and East Lawrence.

They were locked in to Old West

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(10:45:57)

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MR. ARNOLD:

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was definite very strict housing discrimination --

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MRS. HARVEY:

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MR. ARNOLD:

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Right.
-- in terms of your

opportunities?

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MRS. HARVEY:

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MR. ARNOLD:

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swimming pool.

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frustration.

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children, or --

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So for African-Americans there

That's right.
And you also mentioned the

I know that was an issue of

Did that affect you personally, your

MRS. HARVEY:

Yes.

I took my children either

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back to Kansas City or to Topeka and there were a

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number of us young mothers in St. Luke who wanted

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our children to learn to swim so we would get

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together after church on Sunday and take them to

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Topeka and they were taught there how to swim.

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All this happened, even this continued for quite

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awhile in Lawrence.

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the pools opened up.

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(10:46:51)

I don't really remember when

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MR. ARNOLD:

Right.

I think the new pool was

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built, they approved it in 1967, the municipal

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pool, and I think it was opened in 1968 or '69, so

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before that definitely there was limited

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opportunity for African-Americans, maybe none at

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all.

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MRS. HARVEY:

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(10:47:09)

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MR. ARNOLD:

Yes.

Now, what would you say were the

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primary impediments to bringing about change in

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some of those discriminatory practices?

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MRS. HARVEY:

Well, it amounted to the

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churches organizing and the people in their

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frustrations began to demand some things.

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did walks.

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particularly, but they did a lot of marching here

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in Lawrence.

They

I don't really remember sit-ins

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(10:47:44)

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MR. ARNOLD:

Right.

And who would you say

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was trying to prevent change?

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groups that --

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MRS. HARVEY:

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MR. ARNOLD:

Do you remember any

Not by name, no.
Okay.

Now, there were many

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groups that included both white and

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African-American people fighting for change and

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Church Women United was one of those groups.

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would you describe the composition of that group,

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the types of people, what churches were involved?

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MRS. HARVEY:

How

Church Women United was

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organized in 1941, I believe it was, in December,

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in Atlantic City, New Jersey.

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the auspices of the ministerial alliances and

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there were 70 denominations, as I remember.

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Sometimes you just had two or three churches of

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the same denomination, but at that juncture we

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were United Church Women and we met monthly

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locally and then there was a state organization

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which met once a year, but we were organized with

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the various groups of the various churches coming

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together.

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one representative from the women's group of that

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particular church.

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It was under the

Ministers' wives were included and then

I'm not sure I can name all of the churches,

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but as I remember there were, course at that point

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there was just Methodist Church, they were not

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United Methodists at that point, but there were at

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least three of them in Lawrence.

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Baptist Church, Presbyterian Church, Plymouth

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Congregational, and all of these churches were

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downtown at that point and we met from church to

There was the

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church.

There were two African Methodist

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Episcopal churches, there were two [indationary]

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Baptist churches, which were black churches.

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MR. ARNOLD:

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MRS. HARVEY:

Okay.
First Church.

Let me see.

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Well, we call it the Christian Church.

Is it the

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First Church?

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[Lawrence Interdenominational Nutrition Kitchen],

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First Christian Church, but most of the larger

It's where they serve LINK

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white churches were involved, and there weren't a

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whole lot of the black churches.

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churches that I mentioned.

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MR. ARNOLD:

The four

Okay, so all the

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African-American churches were involved but it was

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a small number --

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MRS. HARVEY:

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MR. ARNOLD:

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MRS. HARVEY:

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Oh, not all?

Okay.

There were smaller African

Methodist churches.

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MR. ARNOLD:

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MRS. HARVEY:

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Not all, no.

Okay.
I mean, smaller, yes, black

churches, but they were not all involved.

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MR. ARNOLD:

Okay.

I understand.

Now, what

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got the United Church Women interested in the

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housing issue, do you recall?

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MRS. HARVEY:

It came from the national.

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Most of our directives came through the national

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program, then we would work on the local level,

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but we could also choose a local project if we so

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desired, but at that point, of course, we went

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with the national program to work on fair housing.

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MR. ARNOLD:

Okay.

And in 1964, according to

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some records I've seen, the United Church Women

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conducted a housing study or a housing survey and

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they also gathered signatures from members of

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various churches and I think got 845 signatures in

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favor of fair housing.

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MRS. HARVEY:

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mention it, yes.

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MR. ARNOLD:

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MRS. HARVEY:

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(10:52:17)

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MR. ARNOLD:

Do you recall that study?

Yes, I recall, now that you

Were you involved in that?
If it was in the '60s, yes.

And do you recall what the group

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was hoping to accomplish by that study and by

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gathering those signatures?

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MRS. HARVEY:

Basically what we wanted to do

was just open the housing up to anybody who wanted

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to look at housing.

You weren't even shown

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housing in that day.

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looking for homes, we were just trying to look

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toward the future as to what our own families

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would want.

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can remember that.

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Go ahead.

And most of us were not

It amounted to a lot of meetings, I

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MR. ARNOLD:

A lot of time was involved.

Were you surprised that you got

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845 signatures?

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number of signatures in favor of fair housing.

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Was that an encouraging sign for you?

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I mean, that's a fairly large

MRS. HARVEY:

Yes, it was an encouraging

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sign.

I'm not sure that we were surprised because

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there were a lot of people who were behind the

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movement, but they just didn't come forward when

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we would have public meetings and so, if I

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remember right, we sent these petitions to all the

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churches and people signed, and then we probably

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took them in to count it.

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MR. ARNOLD:

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And why do you think some people

were supportive but would not come forward?
MRS. HARVEY:
their jobs.

A lot of them were afraid of

A lot of them were just people who

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did not come forward, they just, they stayed at

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home.

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didn't come forward.

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MR. ARNOLD:

They talked in the background but they

Right.

And who were the people

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who were mostly opposed to changing fair housing?

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Was it mostly the real estate industry or --

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MRS. HARVEY:

I don't know.

I think the real

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estate people had a little to do with it but also

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it depended on the person who owned the home, and

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a lot of those homes were owned by, we found, by

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professors on the hill, and people with money who

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had, and then didn't want to open their

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neighborhoods.

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MR. ARNOLD:

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MRS. HARVEY:

Right.

It --

(indiscernible) such families

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had a fear of opening the neighborhood to other

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minority groups.

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MR. ARNOLD:

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And was that because they were

afraid that property values might decline or -MRS. HARVEY:

Yes, that was one of the things

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they would say, and then of course they would say

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that they weren't educated, as well educated as

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they thought they should be, and they were afraid

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that their girls would be violated.

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MR. ARNOLD:

Right.

And it's interesting you

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mention the people up on the hill, because some of

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the things that we have seen indicate that many of

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the members of the white community that fought in

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favor of fair housing were university people, but

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obviously that wasn't all of them.

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MRS. HARVEY:

Yes, they were out there, but

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we found in checking that a lot of the housing

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which was substandard was owned by, like I said,

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people on the hill and people of wealth.

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didn't keep them up.

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MR. ARNOLD:

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So did you personally ever experience

They

Yes, that's interesting.

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discrimination in housing or did your family just

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remain living --

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MRS. HARVEY:

No.

I married a local farmer,

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Harvey.

I married into the Harvey family, which

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is a well-documented family here, Rebecca Harvey.

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MR. ARNOLD:

Okay.

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MRS. HARVEY:

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here since 1863, so --

And they've always lived out

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MR. ARNOLD:

Wow.

That's an old Lawrence

family.
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Yes, the farm was always here

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and we never, as I said, we were not looking for

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housing, but we did have children and we didn't

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know what they would want.

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MR. ARNOLD:

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Right, exactly.

So after your

study was completed, and I know I remember reading

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in the newspaper that some of the information

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about your study was published in the

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Journal-World and the mention that 845 people had

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supported it, but did you see any immediate change

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in attitudes as a result of the United Church

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Women's effort?

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MRS. HARVEY:

Not immediate.

It was probably

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two or three years before we began to see people

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moving into other areas.

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MR. ARNOLD:

Right.

And then in 1967 the

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Lawrence Fair Housing Coordinating Committee -- do

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you recall that organization?

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MRS. HARVEY:

No, I don't.

I'm sure it was

there but I don't remember who.
MR. ARNOLD:

Right.

It was a group that came

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together, kind of an umbrella group with, I think

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United Church Women were a part of it, the NAACP,

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a number of other organizations kind of came

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together and formed this umbrella and in January,

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1967, they took the proposal to the Lawrence Human

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Relations Commission to draft a fair housing

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ordinance and then that went to the Lawrence City

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Commission, who approved it, passed it in July of

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1967, and at one of the meetings we actually have

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the minutes that you spoke on behalf of

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representing the United Church Women in support of

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fair housing.

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Commission was willing to pass that ordinance in

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1967 or do you feel like by then there was enough

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support across the community that the issue's time

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had finally come?

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MRS. HARVEY:

Were you surprised that the City

I think it was just time, and

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there were enough people behind the issue that

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they were willing to pass that ordinance, and some

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of them probably had been on the committee, you

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know, with us.

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MR. ARNOLD:

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MRS. HARVEY:

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Right.
I just can't go back 50 years

and think of -- I can -(10:58:54)

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MR. ARNOLD:

Right, yes.

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MRS. HARVEY:

-- remember some of the women,

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but -- and some of the ministers, but otherwise I

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can't really call their names.

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MR. ARNOLD:

Sure.

I understand it's been 50

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years and it's difficult to remember specifics.

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Do you feel like the role of the churches,

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both individually and then through groups like the

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United Church Women, played an important role in

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bringing about the passage of the Fair Housing

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Ordinance that --

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MRS. HARVEY:

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Oh yes, we played a big role in

that.

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MR. ARNOLD:

Yes, it's interesting, as I've

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talked to people many people got involved because

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of, you know, through their churches.

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know whether you remember a Reverend Richard Dulin

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but he was the chairman of the Fair Housing

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Coordinating Committee.

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Congregational Church, but it definitely seems

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that the churches played a very important role.

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MRS. HARVEY:
important role.

I don't

He was from Plymouth

Yes, the churches played an

Like I said, there were 70

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denominations and of course you doesn't have all

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of those in one city, but those churches were, the

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ministers were involved and the Ecumenical

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Ministerial Alliance, they pushed it very hard and

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they pushed, well, they'd tell their women when

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you go you take this message from our church, and

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then that was the way we would get the message

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out.

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When we met our goal was to be united and

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that's what I was going to say.

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in the late '50s or the early '60s that we changed

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the name to Church Women United to put the

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emphasis on united.

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MR. ARNOLD:

Very good.

It was somewhere

Were you involved in

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any other organizations, any other groups that

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were fighting for social change or was your

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primary efforts through Church Women United?

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MRS. HARVEY:

At that point it was probably

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primarily through Church Women United.

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became active by being appointed to various

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organizations by the county commission.

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MR. ARNOLD:

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Okay.

Later I

And do you recall Church

Women United being involved in other issues

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besides fair housing?

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educational opportunities in the schools and did

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they fight for the swimming pool, do you remember?

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MRS. HARVEY:

Were they trying to improve

Oh yes, yes, they fought for

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the swimming pool and anything that was of

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interest.

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give us a concert at one point when Dr. King was

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so active.

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but it also had to been in the '60s, I think.

We had Mrs. Martin Luther King come and

I can't remember what year that was

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MR. ARNOLD:

Okay.

That's interesting.

I'll

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have to see if I can do a little research and find

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out from the newspapers maybe mentions that.

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So it sounds like the Church Women United was
a very active group and -MRS. HARVEY:

It was a very active group and

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it remained active until the churches began to --

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the women began to go out to work, let me put it

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that way, and then the churches did not maintain

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women's groups per se, so that was when we

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disband.

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MR. ARNOLD:

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frame?

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remember?

Okay.

Do you remember what time

Was that the 1970s, 1980s, do you

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MR. ARNOLD:

Probably in the '80s, I think.
Okay.

Do you remember from that

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time frame any particular individuals who stand

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out in your mind who played an important

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leadership role in trying to push for civil rights

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and changes in Lawrence?

One name that comes to

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my mind was Jesse Milan.

Did you know Jesse?

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MRS. HARVEY:
Spearman.

Yes, I knew Jesse Milan.

At that point he was Reverend Benton

Anderson that was a pastor here in Lawrence.

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I'm trying to think of the pastors in the

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larger white churches.

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me.

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MR. ARNOLD:

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John

Okay.

The names aren't coming to

Well, as we said, it's

been 50 years so that's quite a long time ago.
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Yes, but if we can get any

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information from those churches of who their

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pastors were, if they were in the larger churches,

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like I said, the Presbyterian churches, the

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Baptist Church and all of the Methodist churches,

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you will be able to get some information there,

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because they were very active and through their

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women's organizations they pressed us to do a lot

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of things.

We sponsored a World Day of Prayer

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every year, I remember it was on a Friday and I

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can't remember whether it was the first Friday or

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the last Friday in March, but that was something

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that we did as Church Women United.

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MR. ARNOLD:

Great.

Would you say -- you

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know, you had mentioned earlier that one of the

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goals of yourself and others who were involved in

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this group wasn't necessarily to bring about

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change for yourselves but to bring about changes

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that would benefit and provide opportunities for

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your children.

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children stayed in Lawrence, but by the time they

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were out in the working world and out going out

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looking for housing would you say things had

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improved for the better based on your efforts?

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I don't know whether any of your

MRS. HARVEY:

Yes, it had improved to some

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degree.

My youngest daughter, Deborah Green,

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taught at Lawrence High School for over 30 years.

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My older daughter worked here in Lawrence.

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reared three grandsons through the school system

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here.

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MR. ARNOLD:

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We

Okay, and would you say that

they enjoyed much better opportunities in finding

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housing than the generation before them?
MRS. HARVEY:

Let me explain it this way as I

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see it.

They could go look at the housing but the

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money was not there.

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you have to have a job so that they can afford the

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housing.

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housing open and they have no jobs to pay for the

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housing.

It doesn't do any good to have the

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MR. ARNOLD:

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Now, I've always felt that

Right.

It's really a much more

complicated issue sometimes than just saying, --

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MRS. HARVEY:

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MR. ARNOLD:

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MRS. HARVEY:

Yes, it is, --- just saying you can --- and I see it today is still

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the same thing, we don't have the jobs that pay

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the kind of money that they need, and we always

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told our children if you get an education, then

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you can do whatever you want, but it turns out

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that even though we get them educated there are

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not always jobs available for them.

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MR. ARNOLD:

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MRS. HARVEY:

Right.
Such as the school situation.

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You never had enough minority teachers in the

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school system here.

When I came there were only,

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as far as I know, the two teachers who were in

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North Lawrence in the little black school that

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they had.

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MR. ARNOLD:

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MRS. HARVEY:

Right.
And it's not much better today.

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In the 70 years that I have been here I don't see

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a whole lot of progress.

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MR. ARNOLD:

So there may be some progress on

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paper in that the rules have changed but the

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actual opportunities are not necessarily there?

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MRS. HARVEY:

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MR. ARNOLD:

Right.

That's true.

What would you say, if you were

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going to give some advice to young people today

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who might be interested in fighting for social

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change as you did in the 1960s what advice would

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you give them as far as encouraging them how to

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approach trying to bring about change?

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MRS. HARVEY:

Well, first I would tell them

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to be sure that you have all the information that

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you can gather so when you go you can present it

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and know what you're talking about.

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Secondly, I would encourage our young people
to continue to work toward getting educated and

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preparing themselves for a life.

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And then I would tell them to unite with

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people of like mind, those who are also willing to

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get out and band together, work for improvement in

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the community.

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MR. ARNOLD:

Yes, that's a very good point,

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and one of the things that I have found most

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impressive as I have done my research for this

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project is that what really brought about the Fair

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Housing Ordinance in Lawrence was the fact that a

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very diverse group of members of the community

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banded together in local organizations, grassroots

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organizations, like Church Women United and the

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NAACP and others, and they brought about social

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change.

It took awhile but they brought about

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change.

Now they didn't necessarily solve every

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problem but they at least made progress.

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MRS. HARVEY:

Yes.

It took a lot of doing

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and I imagine -- back in that day, which most of

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us belonged to the NAACP and worked through that

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project, which also worked through the churches.

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In that day our ministers were very vocal and a

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lot of help.

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MR. ARNOLD:

Do you think that has changed,

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that the churches are not as active as they used

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to be in trying to bring about change?

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MRS. HARVEY:

Yes, very much so.

I don't see

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them out in the forefront like they were back in

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the '60s, '50s and '60s.

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MR. ARNOLD:

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MRS. HARVEY:

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Right.
I don't know what has brought

about the change but they seem to be, well, people

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are not going to church, just let me put it that

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way, people are not going to church like they did

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back in that day.

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(11:10:29)

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MR. ARNOLD:

Right, and, you know, I've heard

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some people say that younger people today are not

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joiners like they were back in your generation.

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They don't necessarily join organizations, whether

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it's churches or groups like the NAACP, they just

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don't tend to get as involved and maybe that's

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taken away some opportunities for people to come

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together and fight for issues.

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MRS. HARVEY:

Well, some of the people that I

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talk to in that younger age group, they don't see

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any progress and they see no reason to get out

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there and walk and talk and try to improve the

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situation.

They just seem to feel like they're

2

not going anywhere and so why should they bother.

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MR. ARNOLD:

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MRS. HARVEY:

Right.

Yes, --

And I don't know how to help

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them in that sense.

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to tell them what we did, and of course they think

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a lot of that was just old fogeyism, is a term

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that they use, so I don't know how to help them

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with that, but they are going to have to wake up

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one day and see that the progress that has been

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made is slowly being eroded and if they don't get

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out and do something about it they're going to

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find themselves back in the same situation that we

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did back in the '50s and '60s.

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(11:12:13)

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MR. ARNOLD:

Except listen to them and try

Right.

I think you make a very

17

good point in that and we are hoping that projects

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like this which help capture kind of the memories

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of those of you who were involved in that movement

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back in those days will help encourage younger

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people today to realize they can bring about

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change if they work together and try to make the

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system work even though sometimes the system seems

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like it's hard to change.

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MRS. HARVEY:

Yes, it's hard to change, and

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sometimes you don't really see the change that you

2

thought you would see.

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people have not gone through some of the things

4

that my generation went through so therefore they

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don't understand what we're talking about how

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times have changed and how things were and you

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couldn't do things openly in Lawrence; well, just

8

openly period.

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where they expected minorities to remain, but

It's there but our young

You had a back seat and that's

10

there was always a group that was discouraged by

11

the failures that were going on.

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do better, they wanted to have homes that

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represented them.

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that were beautiful.

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progress to some degree but not to the degree that

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I thought it would be by now.

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(11:13:49)

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MR. ARNOLD:

They wanted to

They wanted to move into areas
But I think there's been

Right.

Well, Mrs. Harvey, I

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just have one last question and that is as you

20

reflect back on what you were involved in in the

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1960s what do you feel like you are most proud of

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in the things that you worked on and what you

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accomplished?

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MRS. HARVEY:

Well, I guess I'd have to be

proud of the fact that we did stand up for what we

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thought were our rights, that we did not falter

2

when things did not go our way, we continued to

3

push to get our people on the boards, like the

4

school board and the hospital board and so many

5

things that were not open to minorities in the

6

'50s and '60s.

7

And I was proud of the fact that my daughter,

8

who went to Lawrence High School, came back and

9

was able to teach there for that many years, that

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we were able to get our children educated and help

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them to see that there was a future but that you

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have to be a part of that future, you can't sit

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back and rest on your laurels.

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got one thing open doesn't mean that there wasn't

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another door that needed to be opened.

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(11:15:32)

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MR. ARNOLD:

Right.

Just because we

Well, I think those are

18

very good thoughts and I appreciate you giving me

19

the time to interview you and capture some of your

20

memories and your reflections on that time period.

21

Before we end the interview is there anything

22

else, any other subjects I haven't touched on that

23

you would like to share?

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25

MRS. HARVEY:

No.

I think we've touched on

all of them, and I appreciate you calling me and

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allowing me to do this interview by phone.

2

sorry I didn't meet you in person, but I certainly

3

wish you the best in this project.

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MR. ARNOLD:

I'm

Well, thank you very much, and

5

thank you for your time and thank you for what you

6

contributed to fair housing.

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city still believes it is a very important topic

8

and they wanted to take advantage of the 50th

9

anniversary to try and capture some memories of

As you can tell, the

10

the people who helped to put it in place and then

11

also use this information to promote fair housing,

12

because I think, as you have noted earlier, even

13

though you bring about change, things can start

14

slipping back the other way if you don't

15

reemphasize it and keep it fresh in people's minds

16

and keep fighting for it.

17

MRS. HARVEY:

Well, thank you for

18

interviewing me and allowing me to share.

19

thoughts are not as clear as I had hoped they

20

would be but I certainly hope I have helped you in

21

some way.

22

MR. ARNOLD:

My

Well, you certainly have, and

23

thank you again, Mrs. Harvey, and I really

24

appreciate you giving me the time.

25

nice to talk to you.

It was very

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